Anunnaki -Something to hate?

[William]

Michael Lee Hill:
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Sumerians and the Anunnaki. Presentation By Zecharia Sitchin (FULL)
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Silvio Manuel: I didn't even click on your video Michael. I always knew the scum sucking Anunnaki and their reptilian dna blood line were part of the Sumerian history along with ancient Egypt. They had elongated skulls, much like in the movie, "Alien." Just know this: They will die. Death will be their door much like their cousins the dino dinosaurs. It's all part of the evolution of earth. Their lizard wings will be clipped and they will crawl under the cold winter's sun as a house fly dies on a black screen on Dec. 21st, 2012. Mark my words. The rest of you love and light crowd can continue.

Nat Kelleher you are speaking from LOVE Silvio...these reptilians won't evolve, you're right...their weapon is death, and so they will die... humans with HEART are evolving to be able to deal with their enslaving technologies...i haven't had any fear of reptilians my whole life...they have been trying to stop all the blowback they are due, but with one swing of a true ethereal sword, they are through

Michael Lee Hill: I believe The Anunnaki can see and operate within our possible past, present, and future realities simultaneously. Combined with their calculative strategy, they are thus capable of engineering very complicated and far-ranging manipulations of a hyperdimensional nature. This Anunnaki Inspirations/communication with humanity is at the level of Thought, Creativity in the human race, both "Sides" of the Anunnaki. .

Anunnaki team Light is trying to lead us into the light and to evolve into higher realms of Consciousness. They inspired mankind in understand Agriculture, Architecture, Mathmatics, Music, Culture, Art, Etc.

Team Dark Anunnaki represent a negitive polarity, they work to let humanity experience their own dark-thought forms in the flesh, so they may be healed and cleansed, in hopes the initiate will choose Love over Fear thus transmuting that dark thought-form into it's higher octave of Love.

Prejudice (or foredeeming) is making a judgment or assumption about someone or something before having enough knowledge to be able to do so



William Waterstone: I think some of the problem with the way people who are interested in "WingMakers" see Anunnaki has to do with what James says about them - his claims can be read in the "Camelot interview" as it is referred to... wingmakers.com/downloads/Interview_James_PC.pdf ...and they get a mention in his Spirit State book "The Dohrman Prophesy" although James' expression is none hostile -

Charlotte Rose Hamby: William, James views them as none hostile?

Michael, Thank you!~ I wasn't sure how to respond and your response was done with so much respect and wisdom. I agree with what you have said tenfold!~

William Waterstone: Charlotte - You would have to ask James that question.

What I was saying has more to do with Nat Kelleher and Silvio Manuel comments here which are hostile in tone - and it is that tone which is absent from James' own comments regarding the Anunnaki.

It is true that James and Lyricus present information based upon human mythology and Anunnaki are part of that mythology...James presents in the Camelot interview in a manner that suggests he is by-passing the usual mythology and 'laying out the facts' for a change...

...and these facts are conspicuously absent in explaining the WingMakers Philosophies in relation to the info in Camelot interview and indeed the First Source Transmissions both of which suggest that this universe was created and then in need of exploration - all fine until the Camelot interview which about face and say it was Anu who created this universe and who then seduced Sovereign Entities into donning the human instrument so he could enslave them (us) thus the two views coming from the same source (James) are in opposition.

This has caused something of a riff or schism as those who enjoy the duality of having something to blame - to be hostile towards - have an enemy called 'Anunnaki'.

This hostility is duality in action and thus still operating within the Human Mind System. Up until the Camelot interviews the WingMakers Philosophies and First Source Transmissions were absent of any information which would cause an individual to see an enemy of any sort...

...in general the 'enemy' was regarded as a Lucifer- created soul carrier called "Animus' which failed to contain a soul and took a life of its own as a soulless (non animated by Entities) creature which was hive minded...

...but to the point (as I understand) the philosophies and FS Transmissions were focused on the individual connecting with the Entity in a personal and empowering way and that this would activate the individual toward support of the Grand Experiment.

Why The 'about face' is not clear - James released the Camelot interview not so many months after his audio interview with Mark - and the audios imo are far more constructive than Camelot.

All in all it is a fair indication of misinformation - something which many decided at the onset of the revealing of 'James' as the 'creator/interpreter' of the WingMakers materials - was the case - that 'James' was a misinformation agent and it has to be said due to the ongoing activities re 'WingMakers, that those who support that view do have a point.

For me personally - I remain as always an observer for the most part to the effects of this unfolding happening. I observe that there is a contingent of supporters who blatantly slander anyone who even sees the necessity of asking pertinent questions and often they accuse their targets as being 'Anu/Anunnaki' so you see here that the use of subsequent information is to attach accuse villainize/demonize and generally ignore the 3 Principles in relation to this particular specie - very religious in nature is this ploy...

James is careful not to make demons of the Anunnaki - indeed in the Dorhman Prophesy book at Spirit State he writes them as characters aloof and superior and considering themselves the creator gods of human beings (human instruments specifically which is what Entities are and essentially what First Source is) so at this point one need decide for themselves or remain open minded.

Essentially what is James saying through the Camelot interview where he also says this is 'the age of transparency' (honesty?) ?

Is he saying that he wrote/translated the original materials in all innocence and then discovered he was being used by the Anunnaki and upon discovering this he did an about face?

I cannot say and perhaps others might be able to enlighten?



Charlotte Rose Hamby: You explained that beautifully William... and yes I see what you mean about the introduction of duality.

That Paradigm must always be played out . I believe that all of the God/Devil Good/Evil Brother against brother myths begin with Enki and Enlil and have just been played throughout history with different names... Cain and Able, Jesus and Satan always duel in nature.

Enlil was Jehovah and I also believe from a personal experience that Enlil and Enki were not, nor have ever been Gods!~ They were/are merely extraterrestrial in nature.

They might have been viewed as Gods, but they were only an advanced race, they are us and we are them!~

That is only my opinion, based on my experience.

[William]

There is interesting information in Philosophy Three to do with the evolving dynamic of the Human Specie - specifically the Genetic Mind - and the concept of becoming an 'Elder Race' of a younger species still developing ... within this information there is mention of an 'Elder Race' which is doing just this with their Younger Race (the Human Race ie collectively) and while the Elder Race is not identified by any particular name, it is still mentioned in the framework of Mentor. The obvious question then is why has the subsequent information (Camelot) appeared to so dramatically have changed course and tone regarding the subject of Elder influential benign Race and transformed these into 'tricksters, seducers and liars' ?

The question I am asking is legitimate and while the tendency is for those who prefer to use parts of the Materials and 'sound off' with the 'sweet talk' of fluffy language as a barrier to having to face the possibility of corruption of their belief systems aligned with those 'parts' of the information they 'resonate' and deny the virtue of valor to examine the parts which conflict those beliefs...the question still needs to be asked and if the beliefs could be set aside, purhaps an answer might be found?

Now one could just as legitimately answer that it is James to whom such questions need to be asked since it is he who has made the claims - claims which so unfortunately have resulted in legitimizing hatred toward another specie and the backwards tumble into the pit of blame - which is simply another barrier to freeing the mind from having to accept self responsibility (Sovereignty) Of course James is not necessarily endorsing such a backward step - that is entirely up to the individual - but he has given out information which individuals have pounced upon to support their own preference toward racism and finger pointing. Did the Elder Race get it so wrong? Or are we so stuck in our 'ways' that they themselves 'ordered' James to make them into dark and manipulative beings in the hope that the predictable human tendency towards blaming fueled by the new information would in effect potentially snap us out of our reliance upon 'the gods' to fix our own problems?




The species -- in this case, the human species -- evolves in time as the elder race that guides a developing race in the formation of its metaphysical and scientific foundations. They become the culture-builders of a new species. The evolution of a species stretches from its origins in the Central Universe as a unified genetic model fit to explore the multiverse, to a fragmentation of the species into biologic diversity, to its re-unification through culture and technology, to its ascension as a non-physical unified Genetic Mind, to its application of this Genetic Mind as a means to explore the outer reaches of the cosmos and help guide a developing species, and to the merging of this Genetic Mind with the Genetic Mind of its ancestral race.
Your scientists have defined the evolution of the species on a scale that is only the equivalent of a tiny splinter of wood in a vast forest of time and space. The evolution of the human specie through the "forest" of time and space is an exceedingly dense process, consisting of innumerable levels of progress that ultimately enables the Genetic Mind of the species to blend harmoniously with First Source.
What fuels this process is the genetically endowed drive of the entity to explore the worlds of creation, and to ultimately acquire the necessary wisdom and compassion to lead a younger species to its true wisdom. You may wonder why this process seems so convoluted and fraught with missteps and mistakes. We tell you that the process is not what it seems. The Genetic Mind of the elder race that is working with your species on terra-earth operates in a window of time more comprehensive and inclusive than you can imagine.
~ Philosophy Three

[William]

Nat Kelleher
i personally try to avoid duality, because it creates a simplistic schism in ones mind, and essentially gives unsubstantiated power to what would "seem" to hold us back from our hearts desire in various lifetimes played out through bodies capable of free will...to be dualistic can easily lead to "schizophrenic" thought patterns, and most harmfully, patterns of unnecessary internal aggression...though vampiric entities are a reality, imo, to say that even if one was targeted by a vampiric entity, that it could work itself to the power of "dualism" is logically giving one's own power away to that force in a state of internal fear and aggression...pure dualism should never really exist within a sovereign body, and is thus a simplistic way to address the aspects of darkness, death, hatred, etc.. in reality, dualism is not even close to REAL

Charlotte Rose Hamby
Exactly!~ That pattern has and is still holding us back!~

It is deep rooted in the psyche, because it does stem from an actual event, but without it, we would not have been able to evolve... Thus it has caused us to advance rapidly, but imprisons us in a thought pattern.

We have to now, find away to break out of this duel reality of our own mind/mass conscious belief system. We are coming upon a time frame when we may just be able to do that. There are those in power who know that their time is coming to an end.

Nat Kelleher
it just seems to be another obsolete philosophy to explain why the world and humans are supposedly "evil"...but really, the human race on this planet is still in a state of adolescence where we "compete" excessively and find divisions more frequently than similarities...this seems to be disappearing on a pretty consistent curve intellectually with the advent of the internet, and it probably has to disappear intellectually before it disappears physically...but sadly, it would appear that we will require another crisis to accomplish a functional society...to say that it will come from mass enlightenment is positively hopeful, but doesn't trend with our microscopic history

i totally agree with your last comment...looking at the recent collapse of internet censoring legislation, the powers that be really don't have a clue what their planned progressive global takeover of society will result in...it's a bunch of old, dying, and dead people's "brilliant" schemes which just don't accurately predict the evolutionary nature of the information age within the human heart

they still love to view the masses as dumb cattle, but really, how distorted are their egos compared to "joe blow"... i can sense a growing fear among them that their predicted "trends" and "reactions" are nothing more than childishly and arrogantly hatched schemes that totally undermine the core intelligence and adaptability of humans

i don't really believe in time travel either, so i can just say, they don't have a real grasp of human evolution...i'm not denying the existence of funky head shaped beings from the past, but the future -- longterm -- is not yet written... i just don't believe in time travel at all, but this is only my logic at work, and i have yet to see any science whatsoever besides some simplistic statements about the nature of perception... to me, you still can never "go back"

to be clear, just in case i sounded dumb, i believe time travel to the past to be impossible, but to the future is very easily possible and is as simple as time and space itself!

Charlotte Rose Hamby
I have no belief in linear time, I believe that Einstein has it right!~


William Waterstone
There is interesting information in Philosophy Three to do with the evolving dynamic of the Human Specie - specifically the Genetic Mind - and the concept of becoming an 'Elder Race' of a younger species still developing ... within this information there is mention of an 'Elder Race' which is doing just this with their Younger Race (the Human Race ie collectively) and while the Elder Race is not identified by any particular name, ut us still mentioned in the framework of Mentor. The obvious question then is why has the subsequent information (Camelot) appeared to so dramatically have changed course and tone regarding the subject of Elder influential benign Race and transformed these into 'tricksters, seducers and liars' ?

The question I am asking is legitimate and while the tendency is for those who prefer to use parts of the Materials and 'sound off' with the 'sweet talk' of fluffy language as a barrier to having to face the possibility of corruption of their belief systems aligned with those 'parts' of the information they 'resonate' and deny the virtue of valor to examine the parts which conflict those beliefs...the question still needs to be asked and if the beliefs could be set aside, purhaps an answer might be found?

Now one could just as legitimately answer that it is James to whom such questions need to be asked since it is he who has made the claims - claims which so unfortunately have resulted in legitimizing hatred toward another specie and the backwards tumble into the pit of blame - which is simply another barrier to freeing the mind from having to accept self responsibility (Sovereignty) Of course James is not necessarily endorsing such a backward step - that is entirely up to the individual - but he has given out information which individuals have pounced upon to support their own preference toward racism and finger pointing. Did the Elder Race get it so wrong? Or are we so stuck in our 'ways' that they themselves 'ordered' James to make them into dark and manipulative beings in the hope that the predictable human tendency towards blaming fueled by the new information would in effect potentially snap us out of our reliance upon 'the gods' to fix our own problems?


The species -- in this case, the human species -- evolves in time as the elder race that guides a developing race in the formation of its metaphysical and scientific foundations. They become the culture-builders of a new species. The evolution of a species stretches from its origins in the Central Universe as a unified genetic model fit to explore the multiverse, to a fragmentation of the species into biologic diversity, to its re-unification through culture and technology, to its ascension as a non-physical unified Genetic Mind, to its application of this Genetic Mind as a means to explore the outer reaches of the cosmos and help guide a developing species, and to the merging of this Genetic Mind with the Genetic Mind of its ancestral race.
Your scientists have defined the evolution of the species on a scale that is only the equivalent of a tiny splinter of wood in a vast forest of time and space. The evolution of the human specie through the "forest" of time and space is an exceedingly dense process, consisting of innumerable levels of progress that ultimately enables the Genetic Mind of the species to blend harmoniously with First Source.
What fuels this process is the genetically endowed drive of the entity to explore the worlds of creation, and to ultimately acquire the necessary wisdom and compassion to lead a younger species to its true wisdom. You may wonder why this process seems so convoluted and fraught with missteps and mistakes. We tell you that the process is not what it seems. The Genetic Mind of the elder race that is working with your species on terra-earth operates in a window of time more comprehensive and inclusive than you can imagine.
~ Philosophy Three


Charlotte Rose Hamby
William~ Much food for thought~


Silvio Manuel
Gee..Bill. Maybe you like being a slave and duped into working for the criminal elite and lied too on a daily basis. Maybe you enjoyed having your DNA manipulated and neutered like a dog. I don't know. I'm just asking, do you? Some of us came into this world with our facilities intact, some call us the Indigo children, I personally don't like being placed in a box or labeled but..be that as it may..I wasn't completely dumbed down and not all my food and air I breathe and water I drink is filled with neuro-toxins. I've learned to remove it. Maybe you can learn to remove your ignorance and mental bloc and jump an octave in the universal consciousness. Just saying. Before you accuse and judge me of being hostile it might be a good idea to know the person first and I've stood up to these criminal elite many times in my truth and power while much of humanity has hidden like cowards and the reason the world is the way it is in it's present state. Uncommon valor is common virtue Bill.

Charlotte Rose Hamby
Silvio, You have no idea... If you knew what William was like, you would see how wrong your statements are. You should practice your way of thought and not judge others whom you don't know. Peace

Silvio Manuel
Charlotte, if you knew what I've been thru and why I'm still alive as a first wave Indigo who stood up to the Illuminati all my life and have been shot and stabbed and framed for murder (I have the court documents to prove it, later dismissed) been in the military with top secret security clearances (SCI/TCI w/color codes above it)..you don't have an idea either. You don't know me and either does Billy bob so why are you two idiots judging me? Just shut the fuck up.

Charlotte Rose Hamby
No one is judging you... Sorry that you took it as such. I have always thought with my own mind and I also know what the criminal elite are, but there is so much more going on under the surface. You can't simplify it with right and wrong. You are only proving Williams statements correct with your reply.

Silvio Manuel
No, you are only proving what a hypocrite you are by judging me. You don't know me. You claim to know the criminal elite but have you ever took 'em to court and exposed their ass? Have you ever had to kill one of their minions who tried to kill you? Yeah...peace girl. Go back to being an apologetic, the world needs more.

Charlotte Rose Hamby
I have said not one word in judgment... Nor will I be engaged in a conversation with someone who is only intersted in being disreapectful and argumentative. What the world needs is more people who give a shit!~

Silvio Manuel
Charlotte, maybe you should come up for air and give Bill a chance to be a man. Just saying girl. Sorry to see you are so ignorant as to say, I'm wrong but you don't think that's judging someone? Yeah..ok..you run with that girl. LOL!

Charlotte Rose Hamby
This is all that I will add, to clarify! I meant... *your statements about William*, I know him, you don't. I know how far off the mark that you are concerning him. I don't know you, nor would I ever say that you are not being truthful. I never doubted what you said, it wouldn't have crossed my mind to do so, as none of us know what another has experienced until we have walked in their shoes.

William Waterstone
What matters to me re anyone is there relationship and involvement with their higher self
That is the equal ground to which rational communion is birthed...devolving into name calling and insult is merely distraction and un-'man'-like , albeit 'real men' may proclaim differently.

Nat Kelleher
umm, everyone seems to be judging here, cause that's just what humans do...but by no means is this world truly ruled by evil William, and people who don't believe everything James says are not hiding in the shadows of ignorance...you honestly sound like a cult member sometimes, but i'm not on any mans payroll... i mean what proof do you have William? a 20,000 year speck of human history that basically proves only one thing, FREE WILL, aka "the devil" rules the world, not some channeled figure heads... people who say evil annunaki rule the world are no different than people who say mephisto or lucifer rules the world...Silvio obviously took personal offense to something William said, and so he lashed out, so what...countless people have engaged in severely heated arguments in the past, and ended up gaining more respect for eachother and being friends...humans argue...just say you agree to disagree people, cause yes, you are judging people as ignorant who disagree with you William... and yes you are being way too nasty and mean Silvio...but for fucking christ's sake, we aren't even an old civilization...women haven't even had rights for 100 years yet...so calm the hell down people, chancellor palpatine and darth maul aint out to get you...we are our own worst enemies...if you wanna hang out with thugs, you might get shot...if you wanna live a life hurting others, you might be born with severe mutations your next incarnation...but i have free will and i love you all, so Silvio, just relax, and William, i and others who disagree aren't hiding in freaking ignorance...when you call people ignorant, it's really hurtful William, as you can see. I love you too Charlotte! ^_^

Christopher Dailey
Calm down and remember the Miracle of We. Peace be with HU.

Nat Kelleher
I agree Christopher, but i just have to say this again, because people, especially men, love to gloss over this and say women are made to be weaker or made to be slaves...WOMEN HAVE NOT HAD REAL RIGHTS FOR EVEN 100 YEARS...so point blank, this is a young and retarded world...there's no reason to look for a scapegoat, i.e. lucifer, annunaki, god, adam and eve, etc. WE ARE JUST A VERY YOUNG WORLD!!!


Christopher Dailey
I am for everything, and against no thing. The Luvolution is all i really care about.

Nat Kelleher
same here

Christopher Dailey
On the quantum level we are all one, and i love all WingMakers.

Nat Kelleher
yes we are, and arguing is just part of the human condition...i believe Silvio and William are both very deep LOVERS

Christopher Dailey
For it has been ever thy will to lead the least of thy servants to HU.

Nat Kelleher
and, i just want to apologize for also lashing out against you William... but i do have proof that this world is turning for the better!!!! "the hollywood ending" is a recent invention!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^_^

William Waterstone
Nat - I have not been arguing and certainly have not called anyone ignorant.

Christopher Dailey
I love you both for being real. Aho.

William Waterstone
I think if you want to Nat - read what I have been saying in this 'thread' - from what you are saying (re Anunnaki) I have also been saying.

Nat Kelleher
William you said Silvio and i were being "hostile" by speaking out against a racket of criminals who rule over the drug, sex, and money trades...being hostile is normal for humans, especially when their rights are violated...this modern trend toward "always being positive" in your language doesn't let energy flow in a pure fashion in my opinion...if a mother loses her son to a war propagated by these people, is it hostile to call a spade a spade? are not these people mass murderers? how will this world ever change without calling them what they are?

i have read everything you've written William...i know you don't approve of the ruling class in this world...i never said you were pro illuminati...but i'm just saying that hostility toward these people is why they are so exposed now, like they have never been before...an example is Alex Jones... he can certainly be very hostile and judgmental at times, but he has probably done a better job exposing those people than anyone else alive...it's just a temporary trend of the human condition, imo...once a more balanced world is established, hostility will merely be a hobby to say "this is me!" but fighting and war and violence will be distant memories


William Waterstone
Can I ask then - how will this world change by calling 'them' what they are? You are correct - I did refer to your comment as hostile I have re read it and see where I felt through your use of expression 'hostility' I think it had to do with you phrasing of the sword thing to do with 'reptiles' (Anunnaki?) My apologies for the mis -reading your expression if you are saying that you were not being hostile when you stated "I haven't had any fear of reptilians my whole life...they have been trying to stop all the blowback they are due, but with one swing of a true ethereal sword, they are through" - I realize that part of this has to do with my own observation of 'religious' personalities who sing about the 'lords terrible swift sword' and 'marching as to war' etc...which I know to be hostility, however it is 'dressed'. I also understand that war-full expression is hostile expression weather attack or defend...I saw your calling 'them' 'lizards' as a hostile remark. I have never heard expressions of sword swinging (etc) and name-calling which are ever intended to portray peaceful intent... It is interesting that you find my expression "always being positive" which in your doesn't allow things to flow purely. I can say quiet truthfully that my expression are not always 'positive' depending on the personality reading them - for example - did you feel that my seeing your comments as 'hostile' were positive? I realize you might be saying that to not get into argument is is not letting the energy flow in a pure fashion - but I see a history of warfare result because the fashion of argument at its most physical manifestation is plain and simply warfare. We dont actually have to enter argument at all to share our perspectives see? We can say even that we dont agree - give opportunity for each other to clarify what we were trying to say which we then realized was taken in another way - say 'sorry' where necessary - stand up for our self without ever needing to resort to arguing or being drawn into conflict through any method, name calling - etc... In regard to WingMakers materials...(yes since this is a group under that name) there is no evidence in the 'exposing' of either the illuminati, anunnaki and any such other orgs in any of the materials which either express hostility or promote hostile action. If there is I have missed it.

Nat Kelleher
well, i certainly admit being hostile in some of my remarks and apologize...i honestly respect your mind and heart and experience...i can understand how my sword swinging comment can be taken the wrong way, but i believe there are some blades that don't cut and kill, rather are a temporary invasion of sovereignty -- which is admittedly hostile -- but with the pure intention of waking the target from their selfish state of mind... i like to think of my "blade" as green energy... but that's just my heart and experience speaking...i don't mean to sound violent, but i can understand the confusion...i see my sword as a channeled tool of cosmic connection... as far as how exposing them can help bring about a change, i think it's just a matter of metaphysics... sort of like stereotypical instance of a SCARY hooded figure freezing people in fear, but then a stiff breeze -- or ethereal sword, lol -- comes along and removes the hood, and then that scary entity is exposed as a frail cowering figure when put into the light of people's eyes... in my opinion, the elite have thrived on our ignorance for so long, so naturally, exposure to real knowledge removes ignorance, and so therefore, they have already lost some measure of power and will only lose more and more as the truth comes out...

i'm sincerely sorry for labeling you William...i will try to avoid this in the future...i have much growing up left in me!

HEART William ~ i was being very rude and overly defensive

William Waterstone
I think it appropriate to share with you Nat - an experience I have had...I appreciate your expanding on your terminology - this link will take you to a place you can understand my perspective and you will also no doubt recognize an intimate connection with what you have just shared ...in sharing this you will also see something of the nature of who I am and where I am coming from...I understand your commitment and your apology is heartfelt and sincere and for that I appreciate, accept and understand we are that much closer in knowing each other in the real.

www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_members_introductions/my_journey-t33884.0.html

Nat Kelleher
i'm reading that now, and just to make myself clear for the future, i really like James and his service toward humanity...i listened to all of the interview he did, and really liked what he had to say...i simply need to do some more growing up in expressing myself...tonight has been a good night for the future of me


Charlotte Rose Hamby
and us all!~

William Waterstone
Yes Nat - all of us - you certainly are not alone in that my friend

Nat Kelleher
thanks, i do feel your love, thank you


Charlotte Rose Hamby
So, Thank you Silvio... That is a perfect example of Team Dark!~

William Waterstone
Not to forget you inout here too Christopher Dailey 10Q

…I meant Input ...b but the typo is appropriate!


Charlotte Rose Hamby
Christopher!~ 10Q

Nat Kelleher
your "2nd experience" resonates with my own...way back in 95, from the darkness to the light, a full-body and spirit cleansing and the strength to go my own way, and yes also from the same technique!! still reading though, just wanted to say ^_^

a 70-year-old man who used to preach to federal inmates in California held his hand on my forehead while it happened, but thereafter the feeling of pure love and light lasted for more than an hour! and my life changed completely as a result, from a delinquent to a servant, but honestly back to my true self that i knew as a child

to complete the story, it happened at a farm house in an eastern rural area outside of cleveland, and the man was the father of one of my "friends" ... it was the morning after a sleepover where we spent the whole night drinking and smoking...


just read your third experience William... WOW...i can sort of relate... around a year ago, i was sleeping in the guest bedroom in my house...a house i stay in alone thanks to the generosity of my mom's boyfriend... but i was too scared to sleep in my room at the time because of many demonic experiences, mostly while dreaming...so i was lying in bed in a state of fear and agitation...i was laying on my left side...then my soul clearly spoke through my adams apple and said "please turn to your right side to prevent possession." ...and i just now remembered something else that i have apparently blacked out for more than a year! at the time, and this thankfully only lasted a few weeks, but still it was the most harrowing experience of my life to this day, whenever i would sit in silence, two voices kept repeating the same thing in my head over and over again, essentially 24/7 "lucifer...nat kelleher...lucifer...nat kelleher...lucifer...nat kelleher" on and on... but what made it even scarier was when i would focus on it, it would speed up faster and faster, like pressing fast forward... so this definitely was related to the attempted possession... apparently some entity was trying to possess me for weeks straight almost all the time...uggggggghhhhhhhhh, i can't believe i blacked all that out... another reoccurring thing at the time, is i had a number of dreams where i would wake up and get out of my bed like i was normally awake, and then i would wake up again, and get out of my bed again, but i was still dreaming! thankfully i would always notice something different in the room that would clue me into the fact that i was dreaming...but truly, i was being subjected to the worst reality trip fears!!! man, o man, i guess i had to remember all this at some time or another...i'm glad i can share it with people who understand...sigh

what i can say positively though is all of this happened because i was living in a state of great fear for months leading up to these worst of incidents...nothing close to that has happened for the past year+, and in general, i don't think i will ever be that afraid and exposed again, unless i put myself into that situation through prolonged weeks of fear and hatred

one more thing, i was smoking marijuana daily as a coping mechanism, but this clearly exposed me...i have benefited from this night tremendously and thankfully stopped smoking around the New Year anyways...though for school reasons, because like i said, i blacked out some of this for some reason or another...i feel like i've completed some kind of circle tonight...i'm very happy on a deep level now...and i'm still reading your experiences William, but thank you so much for helping me remember!

sorry, my sentence structure sounded a little confusing ... but basically tonight is great night ... and in the past marijuana has really exposed me


i'm almost done reading William, but i can certainly say you've experienced far more than me...but i wanted to say i've grown to the belief in the last few months that our souls definitely know what's going on and the hidden struggles that take place here on this planet Earth ... i believe my soul and your soul and Charlotte's soul and many other souls here in this forum, and many souls we've met in our lives, are here right now to assist in some kind of "turning of the tide" ... and that they have intentionally exposed us to these experiences to make us stronger for the coming years when at least two dimensions cross over each other for a time, and the future of life on this planet will hang in the balance... we are here to protect it, but i honestly think some people -- and i know of a couple in my life -- have completely sold out to this entity "lucifer" and truly are evil and have committed acts of murder as a testimony to their service of these evil entities, most notably "lucifer" ... i believe "satan" is another entity on the same side as "lucifer" ... but here's where i disagree with Michael .. i don't think they have the same gameplan at all ... sadly, they really are murderers and vampires

i have had dreams of people walking into secret areas underground, accessible through the sewer system, into places where human torsos are hanging off of walls ready to be eaten...and i'm not being delusional...did you know, 900,000 people go missing in the United States every year!

i've since concluded that these missing are all very young(in the grand scheme of time)/or karmically cursed souls ... and so they really have no karmic defense against capture and murder by these evil people

but i know there are very powerful GOOD souls watching myriad backs on a 24/7/365 basis ... and something is definitely bubbling to the surface these next few years ... the world is really gonna change

i don't want to get into anything more now, but for some reason i had to expose this


Thank you so much for sharing your experiences William, they have really helped me to wash away lingering feelings of isolation...thank you for showing me your GOOD and BEAUTIFUL HEART...you, me, and myriad others are gonna find what it takes to make this planet a truly beautiful place once again...Love is the UNIVERSAL FORCE...there's no way we can lose once our numbers reach a certain level -- just as James spoke of! awesome!! ^_^

i know it's sad to put in a win or lose context, but i just think that at this brief time in history, it really is like that, but in the grand scheme of time and evolution, there is no real loss

Michael Lee Hill
All roads lead home indeed, The only thing that differs is the amount of time it takes one to get there. Sometimes the ride can be the most enjoyable thing so take your time & Breathe

[William]

Lyricus Information Re: Lucifer.
Excerpts:


Sarah: "Are you saying what I think you're saying? That anonymous prophets from God knows where and when, have seen a vision of our future take-over by a race of robots? I mean you do realize how -- how unbelievable that sounds?"

Dr. Neruda: "Yes -- I know it sounds unbelievable -- but there are diluted versions of this very same prophecy in our religious texts, it's just that the alien race is portrayed as the antichrist; as if the alien race was personified in the form of Lucifer. This form of the prophecy was acceptable to the gatekeepers of these texts, and so they allowed a form of the prophecy to be distributed, but the notion of an alien race was eliminated."

Sarah: "Why? And who exactly is it who's censoring what we can read and can't? Are you suggesting there's a secret editorial committee that previews books before their distribution?"

Dr. Neruda: "This is a very complicated subject and I could spend a whole day just acquainting you with the general structure of this control of information. Most of the world's major libraries have collections of information that are not available to the general public. Only scholars are authorized to review these materials, and usually only on site. In the same way, there are manuscripts that were controversial and posited theories that were sharply different than the accepted belief systems of their day. These manuscripts or writings were banished by a variety of sources, including the Vatican, universities, governments, and various institutions.

"These writings are sought out by secret organizations that have a mission to collect and retain this information. These organizations are very powerful and well funded, and they can purchase these original manuscripts for a relatively small amount of money. Most of the writings are believed to be hocus-pocus anyway, so libraries are often very willing to part with them for an endowment or modest contribution. Also, most of these are original writings having never been published, being that they originated from a time before the printing press.

"There is a network of secret organizations that are loosely connected through the financial markets and their interests in worldly affairs. They are generally centers of power for the monetary systems within their respective countries, and are elitists of the first order. The ACIO is affiliated with this network only because it is rightly construed that the ACIO has the best technology in the world, and this technology can be deployed for financial gain through market manipulation.

"As for an editorial committee -- no, this secret network of organizations doesn't review books before publication. Its holdings are exclusively in ancient manuscripts and religious texts. They have a very strong interest in prophecy because they believe in the concept of vertical time and they have a vested interest in knowing the macro-environmental changes that can affect the economy. You see for most of them, the only game on this planet that is worth playing is the acquisition of ever-increasing wealth and power through an orchestrated manipulation of the key variables that drive the economic engines of our world."


www.wingmakers.com/neruda1.html


Sarah: "You're talking about the Lucifer rebellion?"

Dr. Neruda: "Yes."

Dr. Neruda: "This story is misrepresented in Biblical texts, owing to the fact that the authors of these texts didn't have a sufficient understanding in which to define cosmology or physics.

"The Central Race designed the higher life forms, and this includes a wide range of beings that operate within the quantum world and the reality membranes therein. Among these beings are what we commonly refer to as the angels, who are intermediaries between the soul carriers of humanoids, and the Central Race.

"There were some within the angelic realm that believed the Central Race was too controlling of the soul carrier structure. They felt that a structure should be created that would enable angels to incarnate within the reality membrane of earth and other life-bearing planets. They insisted that this would improve these planets and the physical structure of the universe at large.

However, the Central Race refused this proposal and a renegade group left to design a soul carrier, independent of the Central Race."

Sarah: "Hold on a moment. You're saying that Lucifer led this rebellion to create a soul carrier that could house the spirit of an angel, and the Animus is the result?"

Dr. Neruda: "It's more complicated than that. Lucifer, or what we have come to call Lucifer, was a very devoted servant of the Central Race. He was one of the forerunners of the angelic species; capable of powers that were diminished by the Central Race in subsequent prototypes."

Sarah: "Are you saying that angels are created -- that they can't reproduce like humans?"

Dr. Neruda: "Correct.

"Lucifer's personality included a strong sense of independence from his creators, and an even stronger sense that his creators were flawed because of their insistence that the humanoid soul carrier would exclusively house the formless consciousness, and not the angelic form. To Lucifer, this seemed unthinkable because the angelic form was superior in its capabilities and could be of great assistance to the physical life forms on earth and other life-bearing planets.

"From Lucifer's perspective, humans and the higher order species would be unable to transform themselves because of the severe limits of their soul carriers, or physical forms. Lucifer felt certain that without the collaboration of the angels, humanoids throughout the universe would become increasingly separated from their purpose as spiritual beings, and throw the universe into disarray, which would eventually cause its destruction and life within it -- including, of course, angels."

Sarah: "Then you're suggesting that the Lucifer rebellion was simply a disagreement over this one issue?"

Dr. Neruda: "Lucifer wanted to incarnate into this reality membrane the same way humans do. He wanted to become a collaborator with humanity to assure its ascension. While the Central Race saw his intentions as noble, they feared that the angelic incarnations would become known as Gods to their human counterparts, and unintentionally mislead humans, rather than co-create the ladder to the God state.

"This matter underwent a tremendous debate, ultimately forming a division between the angelic realm and the Central Race. The loyalists to the Central Race argued that Lucifer and his sympathizers should be banished for their radical ideas that could potentially create a lasting division in their reality membrane, and cause them tremendous turmoil. Lucifer, in wide-ranging deliberations with the Central Race, negotiated a compromise that enabled him to take his group of sympathizers and prove the value of their plan on a single planet."

Sarah: "Are you saying that Lucifer was allowed to experiment on a planet?"

Dr. Neruda: "Yes."

[read more – “Lucifer mentioned 25 time in this doc]

www.wingmakers.com/neruda3.html

Sarah: “What about the occult references to the Illuminati? Are they true?”

Dr. Neruda: “The supposed leaders of the Illuminati are not occultists or Satan worshippers as they are sometimes accused. Again, this is conspiracy theory run amok, usually by those who seek to define enemies that can embody Lucifer, which in their mind is synonymous with the occult.

The Illuminati, while it exists as an elite organization, is made up of men and women that do not conform to one belief system. The spiritual beliefs of their members are not used as criteria to acquire membership. What’s important is a member’s personal network of contacts.”

Sarah: “But don’t they have a tremendous influence on politics?”

Dr. Neruda: “Yes, they have influence, as do the Masons, and Skull and Bones, and twenty-seven other organizations that make up this loose-knit network of the elite, but the people who control the master plan are not directly affiliated with any one of these thirty organizations.

“The reality is that these organizations really operate in one of three forces that do have alignment under the controlling hand of the Incunabula.”

Sarah: “So you’re saying that within these three forces the world’s political stage is organized, and the group with the most money also has the best knowledge and basically controls the other two groups?”

www.wingmakers.com/neruda4ex.html

Those of you familiar with the WingMakers Materials know that the Animus are a part of the mythological expression of Lucifer, or evil incarnate. They operate in conjunction with organizations bent on the control of earth and her inhabitants.

They are not exclusively extraterrestrial; they are here among us.
Before anyone becomes troubled at this statement, let me affirm clearly that the Animus (I will refer to them with this moniker only for consistency’s sake) are playing a role in this shift. Without them it would not occur at this time given the planet’s history.

By the standards of good and evil, they are evil because they believe in the supremacy of the mind and its abilities to engineer social and economic outcomes for their benefit by manipulating the masses of humanity and exploiting the planet’s resources.
What they do not understand is that there are higher powers than the human or even extraterrestrial intellect—no matter how educated or evolved it may be—that are organizing and operating at a collective level. There is not a single Messiah, Prophet or Savior in this era that will come and balance these elitist forces.

In our time, it is a co-mingling of cosmic, extraterrestrial and human forces because the stakes are too important, the macroenvironment too complicated, and the histories too muddled for any one person to step forward and help humanity leap over the hurdles that lie ahead.

This time it will be done as a unified team. This team will steer the course of the planetary consciousness and the dimensional shift that awaits it. It will operate in accord to the principles of the heart, independent of the minds of the appointed elite. There is a passage in Liminal Cosmogony that states:

“When the Animus believe they are entering the mansion of earth, using keys of the intellect, the Tribe of Light will enter through the backdoor, sealing the entryway and windows with a frequency that no intellect can unlock. The Animus will struggle to prevail, but having hearts that have withered they are drawn to the lower fields prepared for them, while the mansion of earth graduates into a meadow of grace and calm from which the soul of man can rise.” ~ The Energetic Heart: Its Purpose in Human Destiny

www.wingmakers.com/downloads/energeticheart(epaper).pdf

[William]

William Waterstone
I think it appropriate to share with you Nat - an experience I have had...I appreciate your expanding on your terminology - this link will take you to a place you can understand my perspective and you will also no doubt recognize an intimate connection with what you have just shared ...in sharing this you will also see something of the nature of who I am and where I am coming from...I understand your commitment and your apology is heartfelt and sincere and for that I appreciate, accept and understand we are that much closer in knowing each other in the real.

www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcom....y-t33884.0.html

My Journey

Greetings All
I found this forum site through a link from “Traveller” to “The Frank Kepple Resource” page. I have been reading Frank’s sharing on that page, as well as his postings on this forum - for the last 2 or 3 days and am intrigued with how similar his attitude/attributes are to my own – although of course not identical.

It is quiet timely (no surprises there) and refreshing – sometimes it can seem a lonesome existence surrounded by like-minded people, so much like each other and so dissimilar to myself and my view on the world we live in, in relation to the invisible reality which is mostly ignored or wrongfully described.

I have had some experiences regarding OBE and ‘things that go *bump* in the night’ – strange and terrifying reality merges etc.

I have never brought back any data to my conscious F1 reality (my dominant reality) but have communed with aspects of the invisible realm for many years and what Frank has shared aligns with those communications and elaborates – it is like reading something which confirms much of the things I have learned to understand about a realm that an aspect of myself likely visits/resides regularly, yet, as I inferred, the information experienced therein does not register as memory with me in the dominant reality of this F1 – physical reality – so from that viewpoint I have never been ‘there’ but understand/know/accept its existence and my intimate relationship/connection to it.

I enjoy Franks accounts of his travels, his model is so like the way I have learned to understand it through intelligent analysis of my own experiences (limited as they be in comparison with his) and I am enjoying this fact because it is very much conformation for me that although I have never consciously been there, I pretty much have it nailed as to what it is about.

Of course, I have had other assistance in mapping out the ins and outs through personal experience, intuition, certain philosophy, communication and conformation through…coinciding events, synchronicity/serendipity.

I have incorporated my own brand of scientific research in piecing the puzzle together, but have approached it more from a religious angle than from scepticism or pure scientific curiosity or the - prove it right or see it as wrong – angle, essentially learning the understanding that I alone am ultimately responsible for my action/reaction/inaction within every given moment, and also that my approach, while different (slightly or radically) from another’s, is no more or less valid.

I am nearing the time for procedure into that unknown realm and am grateful for the sketchy maps made available by those who have chosen to share their personal resource.

It would good to have a place of potential in which to share my own journey, here in this forum.

In Love.

William

Focus 1, labelled by Robert Monroe as C1, is what we usually refer to as the physical or material world. For the duration of our physical lives, our Primary Focus remains Focus 1 (F1). – Frank Kepple

We each and all have our journeys and indeed, are equal in the fact of our subjective experience.
Objectivity is a helpful tool for confirmation and alignment of testable theory. It can also be an obstacle where ‘thoughts’ become ‘forts’ as groupings of like-minded attitudes congregate in a protective gesture to the agreed ‘precious thing’ which they will defend even to some bitter end-game, and even against logic, intelligence and proven truth.

This is not only a symptom of religion, but extends throughout the human drama embedded into our cultures, sciences, and politics.

Ideally – and because we are ‘community’ creatures, objectivity will always remain open and fluid and attentive to changes. We are all experiencing life on Earth as individuals – as the centre of our own subjective universe, yet we also share the same dominant reality with many, many others and as a primary focus, we are bound to experience friction and all other associated aspects of the spectrum ranging from minor disagreement to raging warfare. It is our ‘lot’ and there is reason for this.

Where there is opportunity to share parts of individual stories, we would be remiss to ignore such, for we really are in this altogether, and truly no personality is an island, nor is it reasonable to think that what one may offer others, is a wasted effort…

So on with my own story…

I was born into this matrix (F1) in 1962, Otara, Auckland, New Zealand.
My first experience with the invisible realm ((F2F3F4)…) began when I started having extreme ‘nightmares’.
These eventually settled down as I became more focused on the dominant reality of F1.
My upbringing was for the most part dysfunctional. As a result I spent much of my time ‘daydreaming’ as a way of relief from such things as being ‘lower social economic’ ‘minority’ pushed around, ignored etc…
I used to run away from home on a regular basis – mostly for escape from my usual surrounds and also for adventure (Tom Sawyer/Robin Hood)
As I entered my teenage years, I got into minor trouble with the law and was removed from my neighbourhood and sent to live with relatives –Invercargill, South Island.

I left school as soon as it was legally possible. Even now I don’t remember exactly how I learned to read and write – Mostly I day-dreamed and gazed out the classroom window…mostly I was a ‘loner’ observing and ignoring the groupings of others – ‘different’ enough to be noticed and when not challenged, bullied or beaten, left to my own self.
I never picked fights or sought attention, or got involved with sporting activities and social clubs.
I was a stranger in a strange land.

My first positions of employment were on sheep and dairy farms, obviously suited to my particular personality – I think that I understood and connected with animals and felt far safer with them, than with the human variety.

This is not to say that I was antisocial/criminal or withdrawn from human contact – I was shy and hesitant to trust other humans but did not allow this to interfere with any potential forming of relationship/friendship, I remained friendly but had no real friendship’s to speak of.

I was always, and am still, very curious.

At the age of 18, while working on a sheep station as a ‘hired hand’ I met a person who was a nephew of the land-owner. He was studying for university and would come to the station during his holiday periods, and we struck up a friendship.

During these times he would sometimes talk about his Christianity. He was raised a Roman Catholic, in the traditional sense, but was coming from a more recent branch which was inclusive of Pentecostalism.

I myself was raised in a Protestant environment, and was aware of the stories associated with Jesus, ‘God’ etc…

Our philosophical/religious discussions I found interesting and thought provoking. My new friend maintained that it was all very well knowing the stories about ‘God’ and Jesus, but that it was more important to have a personal relationship with these, and in order to do so, I needed to acknowledge my sin(s) and the fact that Jesus died for me because of those sins.

I had of course heard this story many times, but clearly I needed to make it personal, so one night with he and myself, I got on my knees in the small hut I slept in, and asked Jesus to forgive me and enter into my life and help me to be the person I needed to be.

At that instant I had a profound awareness of an invisible presence of at least two personalities entered that hut and from somewhere deep inside my being, a floodgate opened and tears flowed freely.

This was my second experience of the invisible realm (F2F3F4)




My third experience was some months after this. I had left my job and moved to the North Island. I was also seeing clear interaction between the invisible realm (F2F3F4) and this dominant reality (F1) through prayer/request to that realm and answers to those requests.

On this particular day, I was walking back to the place where I boarded. It was very hot and humid and I was glad when I finally got home and lay on my bed.

I must have fallen ‘asleep’ pretty much immediately but did not realise it. What I experienced was ‘dreaming’ the same hot day – I walked down the path to my home, entered through another door – witnessed a gathering of strangers disco dancing in the lounge area, though nothing of it – went to my room and lay on my bed.

As I lay down, thinking how hot it was – I suddenly became aware of a distinct heartbeat sound, to my left and near floor level. At first I thought I was hearing things and then immediately had the sense of ‘something’ in the room with me.
As I realised this, the ‘something’ began to float upwards until it was level with the bed – heartbeat getting louder…I could sense that it was floating and at the moment I tried to turn my head to see what it was, it entered into my body through the left side.

At that point my whole body went rigid and I remember freaking big time and tried to bang my right leg against the wall hoping to attract the attention of my landlady – but I could not move a muscle. I tried to scream. No sound came out of my mouth but a whispered gargle.

At that point – near hysteria – I woke up. I remember my eyes actually opening and everything was the same – same day, same sunlight/shadows coming into the room – etc…all that had changed was that I was no longer paralyzed.

Naturally, being a Christian I immediately thought I had been possessed. This did not compute – it was not something I could reason with – I had not been mucking about with ‘occult’ things, I had been consistently praying and seeing answers to those prayers, I was certainly changing my direction in life and felt that it was for the better, so how come the Lord had allowed this to happen?

Well – I had been attending a small church group and decided to approach the pastor and tell him of this event. He did not know what it was that I had experienced, but was convinced that it wasn’t ‘possession’ as I was not displaying the classical symptoms normally associated with ‘possession’.

The question remained unanswered and I moved on.

My next experience happened around the age of 22-23.

At this point in my life, I had moved back to the South Island, married with one child and had left the church due to seeing that the authority was more interested in preaching the imminent return of Jesus in all his glory on the one hand while trying to sell me life insurance on the other – among other things.

My beliefs were still centred on aspects of Christianity, but in examining Christendom I found no real common ground.

Due to the way things were unfolding, I found myself in a position where I felt I need to sincerely prove to myself the validity of my belief systems and began to think of myself as a ‘disciple’ and followed literally the instructions given in the Bible pertaining to selling all my possessions, doing without money and set off hitch hiking around the South Island stopping and praying in towns and cities a simple prayer along the lines of ‘Whatever it takes, may the Kingdom come in the lives, hearts and minds of the occupants.’

During these travels, my wife and child were provided for by the Gov. while I experienced first hand the amazing power of providence on a daily basis, carrying no more than a coat, spare pair of socks, toothbrush and a pen and some paper, stamps and envelopes, to keep my wife informed of my progress.

It was during this time on the road, I found myself in a very remote township. It was near dusk and having no where to stay I found a Christian Hostel, but no one was there as it was off season. I noticed a window slightly ajar and took the opportunity to enter the building thinking that if I were detected, they were Christians and would forgive me my trespass.

The room I entered in through the window had bunks and I jumped onto one of the top ones and promptly feel asleep.

Sometime later, I ‘awoke’ to the sound of a tin can rolling across the wooden floor of the main eating area and then heard footfalls of the person walking towards the room I was in and immediately thought it was the janitor coming in to fetch something. I then wondered if I should get up and let him know I was in the building and then thought I would just remain on the bunk and see what would unfold.

Then there was the sound of the swinging doors opening and the footfall got louder and suddenly stopped directly outside of my room. The door to my room opened inwards and was open at the time, and the particular bunk I chose to sleep in was in a position where my line of sight was blocked by the open door.

At this point I thought it was very strange that someone would stop directly in the doorway of the room I was in, and was about to get up to see when I was suddenly held down by a strong invisible presence and as soon as this happened, I heard the classic ‘deep evil laugh/chuckle’ coming from the presence at the doorway.

I immediately came to the conclusion that this was the ‘Devil’, and that this harassment had everything to do with my ‘pilgrimage’ – that being my recent actions around the island.

I managed to turn my head slightly in the direction of the presence and with great effort to talk at all I managed a garbled “I’m not afraid of you, because Jesus is my Lord!” no sooner having got that out than the pressure on my body left and my eyes opened and I immediately jumped out of bed and went to the doorway to confront my adversary – only to find that there was nobody there.
At this point I was totally pumped – I went out into the main hall area and there was a clock on the wall and the hands read 1:11.

I do think a lot of these notions of gods and angels etc have come about by people who have made contact with those residing in our Wider Reality without knowing exactly what was happening. They then proceeded to interpret the situation according to their pre-defined beliefs. Frank Kepple

If you want to know who created the universe, I have been reliably informed that it was us!
Frank Kepple

My experience in travelling around had forced my focus to the fact that there was ‘something’ (I called it “God”) which interacted intelligently with the physical world and was able to direct the unfolding events – in my time away from the direct assistance of the system through the use of money I had experienced being watched over/looked after and this in turn allowed me to realise and interact with that providence, and learn unusual things which captivated my focus of attention – connecting the dots…

Many months after my experience in the Christian Youth Hostel, my wife and child and I moved from the East coast (Christchurch) to the West coast – to a small village of around 200 permanent residents. The year was 1986-1987.
We rented a small house. I had stopped my hitch hiking and was receiving the family dole. Work was scarce.


During this time my next experience occurred – while I have had more experiences since this one, this is the one which has had the most profound affect on me, and is responsible for major shifts in my belief systems since.

I ‘awoke’ and noticed in our child’s room directly opposite, blue, ‘electric’ type light flickering through the glass doors which separated the two rooms. The light was reminiscent of the same effect used in Star Trek to do with the transporter.

I immediately felt concerned and went to get up to investigate, only to find myself ‘held down’ by that same invisible presence/force.
At that moment I heard the same deep evil laugh I had heard in my previous experience and moved my eyes in the direction of the sound, to see the most frightening thing I have ever experienced.


The apparition was at the end of the bed, on my side and was short with grey hued skin.
It was dressed in lose fitting grey material reminiscent of a robe and had its arms crossed over its chest area – left arm over right.
It had very long skinny fingers.
Its face was etched with wrinkles – and gave me the distinct impression that this being was very ancient.

My own reaction was a curious mix of emotions. I could feel my physical body react with unprecedented fear – the hackles were raised and I am positive that had it been able, it would have been clawing at the walls trying to escape what it was obviously seeing as a paramount threat to survival.

My conscious awareness was reacting with what can only be honestly described as pure hate.
Hate is a symptom of fear. It manifested itself as bravery – or more specifically as ‘putting on a brave face’ or ‘being strong in the face of adversity’.

Because of my belief systems at that time, I believed that the apparition was the ‘devil’ or more specifically “Lucifer” and I immediately focused that brave hatred towards it and the expressions I tried to speak (in this state of paralysis it is very hard to even move the mouth) I garbled:

“What do you want, you ugly bastard”

At that point the apparition began to float toward me – down the side of the bed. Of course I couldn’t see its legs but the motion was definitely one of levitating rather than walking.
As the apparition moved closer to me I continued:

“Oh – sorry…even you have a Father.” (sarcasm)

At this point, the apparition began to reach out with its left arm – very deliberately intent on touching my forehead – it was very close to me and I could see every detail of its face and its fingers – definitely an ancient being – and not of this Earth…

As I realised that the being intended to touch me, the very thought of this created a rush of intense anger – how DARE it (or anything) touch me without my permission!
With extreme effort, fuelled by the anger, I continued:

“You can leave right NOW!”

On the word “NOW!”, with every ounce of my strength, I managed to move my head/upper body up and towards the beings face – and for that brief moment we were directly face to face.

Then I ‘awoke’ sitting up and the apparition had vanished.

I immediately went to our child’s room and he was sleeping soundly. Everything was fine.

So that is the outline of the experience, which couldn’t have lasted more than a minute, and likely not even that.

Now to the specifics.

While I was behaving as I was, when this creature began to reach out to touch me, I was looking at it directly in the eyes and at this point we were only arms length away from each other and I saw/recognised in those eyes an unmistakeable Love.

Huh?

What can I say…? Well I can say this, that in that moment, whatever my attitude/intention towards this being was, ITS intention was one of profound love for me. I just knew – it looked into me – to the very heart of who I am and I ‘knew’ in that instant that this being loved me, knew me – more than I loved or knew myself and that there was no other intent on the part of that being in relation to me, than pure love.

This was milliseconds before I lifted my body up and faced off.

Then it was over.

As one could imagine, the paradox of the whole situation – my presumptions and reactions so full of hate and anger and fear…and this Ancient Grey Being with the deep loving eyes but the ability to control my body movements and even enhance my fear by laughing in an evil way…it took literally years for me to piece together a rational and honest explanation for that one event which happened in a few moments of time.

I could not reconcile the perceived evil with the undeniable, unconditional - Love.

My next experience happened the following night…

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he people who are engaged in the religious constructs are the ones caught lower down, which is kind of ironic when you think about it. This is the main reason why I, personally, detest any kind of fundamentalist religion. These kinds of belief constructs are presented within the physical as a boon to progression in the non-physical, when in fact they turn out to be a barrier.

Frank Kepple

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…the following night I ‘awoke’ once again in a state of paralysis.
Immediately I felt invisible hands grab my wrists and pull me strait up and out of my body. Once I was in a vertical position, my arms were placed over my chest, in the same position as I had seen the Ancient Grey Being hold its arms – left over right, crossing at the chest.
Immediately my arms were thus crossed, the invisible hands let go of my wrists and I felt myself floating above the bed.
I did not feel fearful at all – I felt quiet buoyant and rather amused and thought I would try to do something with this situation.
I thought to myself ‘what should I do now’ and decided to go take a look in my child’s room, to see how he was.
As soon as I thought this, I started to float sideways across the bed towards the left hand side and as I cleared the bed I felt myself start to float slowly towards the floor…and as soon as my feet touched the floor, I awoke, - back in my bed.

Now some years later I relayed this experience to my dad, who told me that it had happened to him once as well and that it had scared him silly and that the grip on his wrists had been so intense that it had left actual red marks around them which took many days to fade.
As well, I have spoken to one of my brothers more recently and this has happened to him too (apart from the physical marks on the wrists).



Note: I was at work this morning thinking about things and I realise there were a couple of experiences I had before the ‘visitation’ of the Ancient Grey Being – It was my intention to keep them in chronological order – but nvm – I will continue with that now…
… The actual 3rd experience I had (that I recall), happened when I was around 18-19 years old – I had come back from the North Island and had been involved with a Pentecostal church group for about a year.

I was at this time, in a rather dejected state. I had spoken to a few people about my experience in the North and no one was able to give me any kind of explanation and I began to feel certain that the pastors/elders of my church group were more like used car salesmen than sincere enlightened individuals.
I know that the crunch came for me when on top of everything else, the pastor ( a recent replacement) had been accused of ‘misappropriate teaching of young women’ in the previous church group he had been pastor of.

I spent the next few weeks alone in my room and only left to go to work.
Actually, this time alone was real good for me – it gave me a chance to focus my thoughts without any interference from outside blah blahs.
I remember buying a model Mack truck (the ‘Rubber duck’) and spending a good amount of time putting it together and it was near perfect by the time I had completed it.
It was during this alone-time that I experienced that head buzzing electric feeling accompanied by paralysis and as freaky as it was, I couldn’t fight it and had to let it happen.
This happened a few times over this period and eventually I decided to just leave things behind and move on.
Unfortunately, my flatmates – both members of the same church group – had grave concerns as to my locking myself away in my room and when I just up and left with my back pack and guitar in case, well they decided to call in reinforcements and caught up with me, took my gear off me and took it back to their place and came back to fetch me only to find the police speaking with me and a couple of major big windows in the background with great holes in them from where I had thrown the rocks through.

So needless to say, I didn’t get to go north – I got to go for psychiatric assessment and court proceedings and was diagnosed with depression and ‘had’ to go through a series of residential courses to get to the bottom of my problems and sort myself out. The course was voluntary – but I had nothing else to do and was interested in things to do with psychiatry and wanted to understand what was happening to me.

I was placed on anti-depressants and took these for about 2 months and then decided to take myself off them. I haven’t needed them since, and don’t know if they were helpful or not.

It is likely quiet obvious that I was wondering as to WHY these things were happening to me, and WHY my beliefs were not protecting me from something which seemed like horrible attacks from dark ‘things’.

Okay – fast forward a few years but still prior to the 1st and 2nd encounter with the Ancient Grey Being…

Oh…I want to keep my posts as short as possible while still trying to convey enough info in them – so I will share that experience in my next post.

Cheers

The best we can do is to focus on the love and positivity than can arise from such painful moments, providing we give them a chance to do so. Frank Kepple

I should point out here that recent exploration has provided me with evidence that our desires and mental attitudes DO directly influence our physical reality to a far greater extent than previously thought; indeed our physical circumstances are DIRECTLY LINKED to our particular desires and attitudes.
Frank Kepple

So to the experience I mentioned in my last post.
This experience dealt with the subject of duality.
Long story short – I had decided that this inner ‘battle’ was doing no great thing to help my progress.

I asked my ‘God’ to remove the ‘dark side’ of my personality. I remember the internal dialog stating that should I do this then ‘I’ would die too (meaning the ‘light side’ to which I desired to support and integrate fully into/as my personality..
I remember replying to this that I was prepared to die if that is what it took to rid myself of this ‘darkness’.
What I was ‘asking’ was for that which I felt detrimental to this process to be removed
After this ‘prayer/request’ I went to bed. (this was during my travels on the road and I was staying overnight at a friends place)

The experience:

As I lay thinking about what I had asked, I suddenly felt as if a dial was being turned within my consciousness and my head immediately started to fell as if it were expanding – indeed – as the expansion got to its zenith, the inside of my head felt as big/roomy as an empty airport hanger – huge but also kinda flat – like things went 2 dimensional and the depth wasn’t quiet there and as huge as the ‘space’ felt – it also felt that I could reach an arm out and touch the far wall.– it was an okay feeling – and lasted only briefly before the ‘dial’ turned and things went back to normal…but did not stop at that.

At this point, I heard my thought-voice say to me “Don’t worry Little Bird” – and I must admit my heart rate went up a notch or two as I descended into a thickness/density which immediately reminded me of long forgotten feelings I had had as a child, which were part of my nightmares.

As this feeling reached its submersed level, I felt as if I were a stick man encased within flesh – my hands felt just like two balloons (thanks PF) and I even opened my eyes to have a look at them, only to see that they were in fact quiet normal, but even looking and seeing this, they still felt huge and puffy.

Again, this feeling/situation only lasted as briefly as the first and the ‘dial’ turned back to ‘centre’ position and I again felt ‘normal’ and lay awake thinking of what had happened and wondering what it all meant, while thinking that the goal had been accomplished – actually kidding myself that it had, but knowing that the ‘dark side’ was still there.

I slept soundly and awoke refreshed and said my farewells and hit the road…all the time thinking about my strange experience.

Now I could end this here, but think it might be a good idea to share a bit more of the unfolding day, since I have mentioned in my intro post regarding coinciding events, synchronicity/serendipity…part and parcel of life’s experiences…

But I will be brief.

I stood on the roadside contemplating the last nights experience and wondering about it.

A short while later, a little old lady in a little old car pulled over and offered me a ride.
Of course, I accepted and got in and buckled up – I then heard bird singing and turned around to see a little bird in a cage on the back seat.

Ah “Little Bird”

We got talking and this little old lady was quiet the spiritual personality.

She picked up another hiker. We got talking and I told them of my travels and how I didn’t use money and how ‘things just worked out on a daily basis.’

The lady dropped us off sometime later – we said our thank you’s and good byes and prepared to start walking to the open road when behind us came a voice saying ‘are you guys heading for Christchurch?”

A very cool looking guy with a very cool looking car – gassing up he had seen us being dropped off and was offering us a ride.

We accepted – on the continuing journey the guy asked me to pick some music from his large collection and I randomly selected a tape.
We had been talking about ‘spiritual’ things and there was a time of silence while we listened to the music and my thoughts were on last nights experience and what it might mean, as well as the name ‘Little Bird” and the old lady who gave me a ride and about my journeys and the things I was experiencing and learning from and I started to think that what had happened last night had something to do with ‘being at peace within oneself’ and instead of ‘dark/light’ fighting against itself, that maybe the ‘two’ should be one and learn to get on…that kind of thing..and then this songs starts playing over the stereo about a brother and sister sorting things out… and I am thinking ‘wow wow wow’ and pretty much being blown away, and while listening and thinking about this, I turned my attention to the view outside the window – over the plains to the distant foothills and further away mountains and there was the cloud shape incorporated into the landscape and an image of a large eye looking directly at me… right there in line with my thought that I am being watched over…looked after, mentored…

So the trip ended with the cool guy dropping us of in Cathedral Square, Christchurch. I then immediately decided to walk around the Cathedral ( I often walked around ‘important’ city building/areas as part of my symbolic activity during my travels) and as I completed the circuit of the Cathedral and stood on the front steps, the bells started chiming out – ding ding ding ding ding for at least a full minute.

Hmmm…said I to myself…a strange and wonderful day…

As I always say, the only way a person can “prove” experiences to himself or herself is to gain knowledge of an action that is unconnected with themselves. Frank Kepple

With regards to F1, we are primarily FOCUSED on our physical bodies and we perceive and interact with the physical world through them but we are in no way INSIDE our bodies. Frank Kepple

So shifting forward many years now – lets see…nearly 40 years old by then… 2002 – My life circumstance has shifted radically.

I am no longer with my wife and child…ah…I should say – Children.

I am at a point where nothing makes sense and everything I have done seems to have been pointless because I am no closer to understanding the nature of the invisible realm in relation to my own and that, while yes – I did ask/invite this invisible reality into my own, I have been living in sanity ever since and the grief and anguish and feelings of violation and trying to make sense of it have taken its toll on my relationships with family and friends and acquaintances – I felt betrayed by the very things I had chosen to believe in.
So I left them all behind.

I went through a ‘numb the pains with alcohol and marijuana’ stage which really lasted a few years.

I meet someone who called herself a ‘white witch’ and we struck up a friendship. She was a bit of an oddity among her friends/family etc and we bounced off each others experiences and she introduced me to the Tarot and Runes.

I introduced her to my belief in ‘God’

She had a sister who owned an old small hall out country and we went to live there – it was such a great place to learn to heal and indeed to learn…

It was at this place that I awoke one day not long after we moved there and told my partner that I was going to make a Ouija board.

She asked me why I wanted to make one and I replied that I couldn’t make sense of this world and communicate effectively with ‘the living’ so maybe I will get better results communicating with ‘the dead’.

On that note I set about thinking on the layout, and designing, settling on the medium (see ‘material’) I would use to make the board, as well as what exactly I would put on the object.
Obviously I was creating a device for communication but had never used one before and had only heard what they were used for and likely had seen pictures of them.
As well as this, I had heard about them through my religious church going days and warned against them, as they were a ‘tool of the devil’, harbouring unsavoury ‘spirits’ which easily attached/anchored themselves to the perpetrator.

Come to think of it, the Tarot had a similar reputation.

I decided on mirror glass as the medium and set about etching a design on the back of the mirror. It did not take very long to complete.
To be on the ‘safe side’ we took the finished item down to a place where two streams flowed into each other and there ‘baptised’ it, held it up to the blessings of the sun, and later, the full moon, then set about communicating.

I won’t get into the details here and now, except to say that over the months we communicated with some interesting personalities, and were taught a great deal in the process.

All of which relates directly to the ‘Astral’ – or what I call the Invisible Realm.

I eventually called the Mirror Glass Ouija’s Universal Intelligence Communications Device(s) mostly out of respect for that which were being communed with.
Also, to distance these from the awful reputation of ‘Ouija’ boards – truly a hideous use of misinformation.

I saw much and learned much through the ‘Ouija Principle’ – a science worthy of a far closer look, is my experience.

One of the teachings I will mention now had to do with increasing the amount of available expressions able to be used within the context of intelligent information.
I was encouraged by my teachers to etch symbols all over the back of the mirror and all the symbols were assigned meaning which was far more useful for the intelligence to utilise in order to get a clear message across – better I know, than a simply alphabet, a yes, no and maybe, and numbers.

Another thing I will mention is that the lessons were not always very easy, and sometimes were an emotional rollercoaster – there was indeed, much work then to be done with me.

Ultimately – after a few years I was informed that I had indeed and all along, been communicating with myself.

Just that the ‘I’ I knew my ‘self’ to be, had not been aware of the “I” that I truly am.

Here I will state that I never once encounted so-called ‘negative spirits’ or had anything bad happened to me in relation to use of Ouija.
Nor did I ever go through motions of ‘protection’ rituals and although we did light candles occasionally, these were because we like candles and didn’t need them for anything other than ambience…these devices could be used in the dark – indeed they look great backlit.

I made a number of the UICDevices over the years. I don’t use them as frequently as I used to because I found a way to transpose the Ouija Principle to the computer, which has speed things up a great deal.

Still, while the principle is a good learning device as well as a device of confirmation, I use it sparingly because I have ‘the voice in my head’ to commune with and intuition and self trust and as many other mediums, including but not limited to the internet, which is indeed a reflection of that Invisible Realm in more ways than one.

Interestingly, I see the internet and computers as being very Ouija-like when combined.

Next I would like to share some ‘out of body’ experiences I have had since incorporating the Ouija Principle into my realm of experience.

Note: One of the most fundamental rules of the Wider Reality that you must take on board is the rule of 'Like attracts Like'.
Frank Kepple

Now, because I am noticing as opposed to avidly trying to perfect and follow some technique or method, in the traditional sense, my full attention is taken by the simple act of noticing.
Frank Kepple

My interest in ‘Astral’ obviously had to do with those early ‘rude awakenings’ – it happened and **it happens, so deal with it!

So the topic was discussed/mentioned on numerous occasions in relation to my communicating with that realm.
During those early days I was encouraged to try many things, and ‘leaving the body’ was one of those things. I had no access on ‘how to’ books and at that time in space I did not have internet and the net was relatively ‘new’ and not many people were using it (as compared to 2011.)
Besides which, the personalities I was communing with were more than adequate for training purposes and general insight.

So – because the subsequent experiences happened to me over the next few years, I will just say what they were in no particular order.

I awoke one night, finding myself in the main area of the hall I was living in. Beside me in a reclined position, facing me, was my then partners recently deceased
Zottweiler dog, “Zac”

Now Zac was mentioned in numerous occasions during our communications, once extremely humorously – but I won’t relate that for now.

What I will relate is that with Zac being ‘dead’ I was not surprised to see him, but I was surprised how we were both floating near the (high) ceiling, and revolving slowly as well!

Just looking at each other.

Then I woke up.

Another time, I awoke to see a portal type circle about the size of a large dinner plate, just floating above the bed and coming out of this portal was a woman’s face, very detailed yet also holographic.
This image had her head turned and she was looking down toward my then partner sleeping next to me.

I couldn’t help myself and reached my arm out and wiggled my fingers into the image, and she turned her head to look at me. I smiled at her then woke up.

Or did she disappear?

Whatever.

Another time, I awoke (I laugh…I start off with “I awoke” and finish off with “I woke up” – but I know that you know what I “mean”)

This time I was awake (“awake”) and I heard the heavy footfall’s of what I immediately knew was a dog.
The dog was downstairs and immediately started running up the stairs towards our bedroom.
I was laying there listening to this and knowing we no longer had a dog
So there was a dog in the house – rather large – and bounding up the stairs – there was no door and the dog simply sprang onto the bed, and then climbed up on my chest and sat there looking down into my eyes.
I looked back and can tell you that the dog was smiling down at me. I certainly knew that it meant me no harm.
Be that as it may, there it was and I could feel its weight – any more heavier and I may have had issues…but bearable under the circumstances.
So the dog was pure black – long-haired, bright eyed and busy tailed. (well I don’t recall seeing a tail from my position, but hey, it goes with the breed(s)!)
It reminded me of Husky, Alsatian, Boarder Collie, and a slight hint of wolf.

So if I am underneath, then in dog-world that equates to I am the ‘under-dog’ (I wasn’t thinking that then, just thought about it now.)
So here is yet another act of violation from that realm! Well, I was getting used to it and it was harmless enough really…a bit of fun and I enjoyed those visitors so much I asked if I could commune with them over the UICD and so added some more friends to my list.

I caledl them “Penny-Tuppence” and …you know I forgot what I called the dog! It will come to me. It has been a while since we all last communed…actually come to think of it, I communed more about them than with them – but something else about that realm is that every ‘thing’ is of the same ‘thing’ – so talk with one, talk with all – befriend one, befriend all.

I am not sure what happened then – Toby (the dog – I remember now) – that whole experience then morphed into another – same place – I was lying there in bed and heard the sound of many voices coming from downstairs where people were having a bit of a party.
I got up to have a look (don’t know what happened to Toby) and from where I stood I was looking down over quiet a few people. They were chatting away together. Then I noticed a Grey.

Now, in relation to the Invisible Realm, I had brought up the subject of Extraterrestrials, in particular, ‘The Greys’ – which again would be an obvious thing for me to do, due to previous experiences…and yes I got to speak with 2 representatives of that aspect…and here I spotted one in my own lounge!.

As soon as I became aware of her, she ‘ran’ into the kitchen area and I headed down the stairs after her.
I was curious.
So when I got to the kitchen I found myself in a maze of sorts – different doors, leading through different areas – outside – inside – I remember going past a row of jail cells at one point and then finally came into an open theatre type area, where I became distracted for a moment at people setting up the stage and then I was suddenly in a mall and back on the trail of the Zeta Reticuli lass.

She was playing a kind of hide and seek with me and briefly showing herself before ducking away – I eventually cornered her in the toy department – yeah sure!

Perfect place for her to hide.

Then I woke up.

Another apparition I had, waking up and seeing a huge and extremely well designed metallic cybernetic looking spider, just hanging there upside down on the ceiling (the way spiders do) and I had the strong impression that as soon as it was aware that I had noticed it, it scuttled gracefully backwards into a fog and disappeared (“I wasn’t here and you didn’t see me”)

There is one last experience I wish to share…soon.

They are usually referred to as Helpers.
Frank Kepple

What I am saying to you is how it is, as far as I can tell. Frank Kepple

This last experience actually was the last experience of this nature that I have had, to date [150511]

This time it started with the head buzzing entry into Hypnagogia, and my awareness increased within this state.
As it did so, I was excited with the prospect of leaving my body because I had been making every effort to focus on this and, having been ‘out’ at least once in my conscious memory, I knew that it was possible but rather than having some’thing’ else pull me out, I wanted to do it ‘free will’ style.

Now my partner (now former) had recently given me a message she had been given in a dream. “Tell William to bend at the knees” – Huh? What did it mean - that I was to submit?
Quiet appropriate really, but I certainly was at a stage where I was comfortable and mostly unafraid of this ‘unknown territory’ and now here I was on the brink of discovery but while I could feel myself trying to leave the body, I couldn’t quiet make it so, and then I remembered the dream message and so I bent my knees and wouldn’t you know it!

There was an audible click sound and I immediately left my body and it was basically free floating above my bed in a reclined position – maybe 6 or so inches above.
My arms were outstretched to the sides, and feet together.

“Okay guys, now what?” and no sooner had I asked than I began to float slowly towards the ceiling and then through it and into the space between the ceiling and the roof.

I could see the timbers and cobwebs and dust etc…I actually felt myself go through the ceiling and heard a sound (hard to describe) in association with going through the ceiling.

I was heading for the roof, and went through that – I can still remember emerging through the corrugated roof iron, seeing the whole experience, and the hearing the sound of passing through the roof.

I could see the stars distinctly, all around and above – I am a stargazer and I can say that I have never seen the stars quiet like I was seeing them at that moment – indeed, everything seemed more real. Yet here I was, observing reality – and it seemed more real. !

Crystal clear clarity – not of the intellectual kind (I did not know WHY I could see more clearly)– like my sense of sight had been greatly enhanced.

…so I am floating above the hall out country, and having a most wonderful experience.

So I say “what now guys?” and I immediately get the sensation of flying backwards (I am still in a reclined position) and watching as I see the hall (home) recede and I am now moving upwards and a slight angle – heading towards the mountains – I start to panic a little and that was enough to zip me right back into my body where I awoke.

Now this would have happened about 5 or 6 years ago now, and I have not tried to leave my body, and have not experienced sleep paralysis, been pulled out of my body by some invisible hands around my wrists, or other such things to do with OOBE’s.

I have experienced apparitions of sorts – not ‘human’ but more like as I wake up from a dream, I see something in the room which normally isn’t there and I have come to see that this is an overlap of realities – what I have been experiencing in dreams overlaps with my ‘wake-world’ and I am momentarily confused, or amazed etc.

So those at least are the sum-total of my experiences/connections regarding the Invisible Realm.

In my next post, I would like to sum up what it all ‘means’ to me and what I have learned about the Invisible Realm, (having never really ever been ‘there’ consciously) and what my Invisible Friends have informed me regarding this set of kingdoms with a Kingdom.

The reality is that all these other 'planes/worlds', including the physical, are in fact part and parcel of one entire spectrum of consciousness, intertwined. I call the totality of our consciousness, when everything is included together, as the Wider Reality.
Frank Kepple

One of the great benefits of knowing how the Wider Reality is organised is when you die, you know exactly where you are and exactly what to do. Frank Kepple

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