The WingMakers Files

[William]

Greetings.

The brave of heart examine first their own beliefs and let go those which are thus proven erroneous.

The intention of this board topic is to allow for the right for people to question, to bring evidence, and to shift through the many layers of conspiratory reflex in an effort to uncover truth, and truthfulness.
All too often such a thing is not allowed within the boarders of the controlling influences of a particular belief or set of beliefs which contradict or point out contradictions.
I think it is healthy and honest to allow for examination and questioning to happen.


The WingMakers Files


Origins and background of Wingmakers and associated projects, Lyricus, Event Temples and Sovereign Integral and a critical appraisal of their aims and content.

wingmakersfiles.110mb.com/#james

This is an interesting and well thought out critique regarding the evolution of 'wingmakers project' since it first appeared on the internet. Too often those involved in the hope of the material ignore the necessity of examining the perceived conflicting evidence and in this they merely act as the religious have historically acted - as if those pointing out the flaws were the enemy of their belief systems...there is a 'wingmakers' hierarchy which over the years has developed and which remains aloof and largely unavailable and acts more like a business than anything supportive of the materials they handle. This is the way 'James' has chosen to present the Lyricus Information - through intermediaries - so the pattern of hierarchical influence and directive can be seen to develop and to influence by the seeker who is not afraid to let go of their beliefs systems - even those beliefs they have chosen to hold fast to which came through the materials over the years - not as 'truth' but as mythology which points to the deeper Truth which the mythology is referring to...at the risk that the mythology replaces the deeper truth it is potentially helping to reveal...

The dimensions of time and space and the elements of energy and matter circumscribe the human drama. It is played out upon the stages of survival and dysfunctional behavior because of the Hierarchy's methods of controlling information and manipulating conditions. ~1st Philosophy

[Lyra]

Yes. A breath of fresh air. Let's separate the wheat from the chaff. Let's discern the masks of the story and the truths it is meant to convey...or hide. Let's see if we can uncover the essence of what is being presented, and its value in helping us realize and express the truth of who and what we are.

The value of any philosophical system or practice is shown in the fruits of the practice. Does it bring us inner peace? Does our behavior reflect compassion, kindness, gratitude, coherency, nurturance of life, and observance of Source in all things?

Gary & Siobhan say:

"The intention behind WingMakers may possibly be sincere and towards the betterment of humankind, but we are of the view that this is probably because of mistaken idealism and false conditioning on the part of those responsible."

"We refute the idea that the WingMakers, Event Temples, Lyricus and Sovereign Integral projects are of any use to anyone. They will tend to lead towards a worthless subjective preoccupation with pseudoscience and esoteric religious dogma and delusion. As such, they should be understood for what they are: false and misleading."

They may be right about the preoccupation and delusion, if the WM UK forum is any indication. However, I want to believe there are other WingMakers students out there who have nothing to do with the forums, in whose lives "the materials" have made a difference and flowered into wisdom and understanding.

[Lyra]

"Just as there is nothing to substantiate the outlandish claims of 'James', there is no evidence to demonstrate that anyone has benefited from them, except in so far as they slavishly repeat the same information and show that they subscribe to a general New Age woo-woo ideology." Gary & Siobhan

Here may be a hint of an inherent problem within the skeptical/ rationalist position. Beyond a mere open-minded examination of beliefs, the skeptic is prone to adopting a rigid stance against anything that cannot withstand the empirical rigors of Cartesian dualism and Newtonian science. He demands "proof," and he demands to define what constitutes proof. This is a cultural blind spot, particularly in Western thought.

It is worth cultivating open-mindedness, fluidity of thought, and a heart-based intelligence that transcends pairs of opposites (either this/or that) when formulating a working guidance system for the project of Human Be-ing.

[William]

You bring up some relevant points Lyra.

Indeed this forum was created because of the incessant conflict experienced with the UK forum.
The UK forum is officially linked at wingmakers.com and thus – for those looking for a place to share in the format of online forum, we will naturally go where we are led (linked) only to discover that all is certainly not what would be expected by the seeker when they encounter the behaviour in the official forum.

So the mother of invention is necessity, and necessity is what creates alternatives.

Gary and Siobhan do bring up some relevant information as it pertains to the unfolding evolution of the WingMakers projection into the collective arena of the internet.

It is my intention to continue monitoring the UKForum and finding the individuals who become the inevitable victims of this behaviour from those outspoken few who have stooped to personality attacks, slander and other forms of lying against those they see as not being aligned to their own particular belief systems developed through their understanding of the materials - to find these particular seekers and invite them here.
Obviously then, it is the intention of this forum administration not to allow the same behaviour to occur here, which is rife in the UK forum.

So this board topic is important for many reasons, inclusive of examining what the critics have to say and placing ones own ‘refute’ where applicable.

I myself do not agree with everything Gary and Siobhan claim, and understand that they are present themselves as being critical of anything ‘spiritual’ but am happy to explore such claims, refute what I can and shine another light on some of these – such as the claim of plagiarism – one which they present evidence such as the excerpt from the First Source Transmissions which they say:



The first paragraph of the Wingmakers First Source Transmission titled ‘My Central Purpose’ reads:

The blueprint of exploration has an overarching intention; you are not the recipients of divine labor and meticulous training only to ensure that you may enjoy endless bliss and eternal ease. There is a purpose of transcendent service concealed beyond the horizon of the present universe age. If I designed you to take you on an eternal excursion into nirvana, I certainly would not construct your entire universe into one vast and intricate training school, requisition a substantial branch of my creation as teachers and instructors, and then spend ages upon ages piloting you, one by one, through this enormous universe school of experiential learning. The furtherance of the system of human progression is cultivated by my will for the explicit purpose to merge the human species with other species from different universes.

which is almost exactly the same as the second last paragraph of the Urantia Book Paper 48, The Morontia Life:

The mortal-survival plan has a practical and serviceable objective; you are not the recipients of all this divine labor and painstaking training only that you may survive just to enjoy endless bliss and eternal ease. There is a goal of transcendent service concealed beyond the horizon of the present universe age. If the Gods designed merely to take you on one long and eternal joy excursion, they certainly would not so largely turn the whole universe into one vast and intricate practical training school, requisition a substantial part of the celestial creation as teachers and instructors, and then spend ages upon ages piloting you, one by one, through this gigantic universe school of experiential training. The furtherance of the scheme of mortal progression seems to be one of the chief businesses of the present organized universe, and the majority of innumerable orders of created intelligences are either directly or indirectly engaged in advancing some phase of this progressive perfection plan. -- The Urantia Book Paper 48, The Morontia Life, 8. The Morontia Progressors


It is really not up to the critics to determine for the individual the validity of any particular thing, but for the individual themselves to examine and decide, certainly based on evidence.

Certainly the above evidence supports that the First Source Transmissions are lifted from another source, bearing in mind that Gary and Siobhan also have something to say about that particular source too.


The Urantia Book (published 1955) is supposedly written by super-beings from heaven and deals with eugenics and 'racial purity'. It is a kind of science-fictional bible, a work of plagiarism peppered with ideas taken from Seventh-Day Adventism and elsewhere.
See: Some Human Sources of the Urantia Book, The bible of eugenics and Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery.
Some commentators have suggested that the Urantia Book in turn may possibly have been inspired by Oahspe A Kosmon Bible in the Words of Jehovih and his Angel Embassadors by John Ballou Newbrough written in 1882. In the early days of Urantia, some followers of the Oahspe Bible tried to get Urantians to change allegiances.


I find this information quiet interesting. In relation to the early days of the initial materials, especially the first 2 philosophies, the subsequent released materials tend to allow others to place the individual as ‘for or against’ thus beckoning the individual back into the fray – this age old battle which has separated humans and distracted them from even investigating the oneness of their origin.

As you point out Lyra:



The value of any philosophical system or practice is shown in the fruits of the practice. Does it bring us inner peace? Does our behavior reflect compassion, kindness, gratitude, coherency, nurturance of life, and observance of Source in all things?

Often and always, any material which is adopted through a religious lens is automatically refracting the underlying intention of such writing, which is not to make a religion out of anything, but to remain open minded, vigilant (to these processes of distortion) and allowing the intention of the mythology or parable to speak to a place deeper within our true self regarding the nature of our reality and how best to react with it – as in behavioural intelligence, which is not and never will be inclusive of such practices which seek to cast shadows on any individual through slander, and other forms of vilification.

Does such behaviour point to the falsity of the materials or to the falsity of the individuals, groups, or organisations which promote the use of such base expression?

As you also say:


They may be right about the preoccupation and delusion, if the WM UK forum is any indication. However, I want to believe there are other WingMakers students out there who have nothing to do with the forums, in whose lives "the materials" have made a difference and flowered into wisdom and understanding.

I think it is so. There are those who have chosen to remain away from anything to do with such behaviour, but I also think that they can provide such encouragement to the seeker in their own sharing, in an online format, such as a forum.

I think there is a fine line between the outwardly hostile in the name of – in this case “WingMakers” such is evident on the UK forum, and those who use the materials in love and light new age type platitudes design really to prevent them from going further into the activation process deeper through the mythological layers – always just outside activating their connection with higher self – much the same way as those who might recite religious sayings – such as ‘The Lords Prayer’ which ironically can be read from the Bible passages where it can be found, as being an example of ‘how to pray with a genuine heart’:


“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

“This, then, is how you should pray:

Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,

your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.

Give us today our daily bread.

And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.

And lead us not into temptation
but deliver us from the evil one

From: Matthew Chapter 6


The irony seen here is that repetitive prayer etc is more a reflex of the mind that a sincere requestment from the heart…yes the irony is that something taught ‘along the lines of’ has become the most repeated drone prayer of Christendom – and has lost its heart.
The point being, this is how religion is formed from culture and belief systems looping over and over becoming fruitless exercise in ‘spirituality’ and devoid of the initial intent to actually assist the seeker in transforming their behaviours, be they outwardly slanderous, or outwardly spiritual.

It is this thing which detains the ‘materials’ in the static fields of non-activation, whatever those materials might be presented as.